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president obama's ultimatum on higher taxes are actually the cause? make him responsible for driving us off the fiscal cliff? go to our to be page at facebook facebook.com/loudobbs. we'll have results at the end. chris and steven joining us here next to address that question and more. ♪ ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] oh what fun it is to ride. get the mercedes-benz on your wish list at the winter event going on now through december 31st. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho! [ malennouncer ] lease a 2013 e350 f $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. lou: house minority leader, pelosi going along with timothy geithner in saying it's just a fact we're going over the cliff if republicans do not agree to meet the president's ultimatum and raise taxes on the top 2%. >> the way i heard it, and the way i think it was not as a threat we'll go over if they don't, it's a prediction. if there's no agreement, then the cliff has to be dealt with. i don't see it if they don't do this, we do that. i saw it as a statement of fact. it's not a threat. it's a prediction. if there's no agreement, we go
. >> and the interesting thing is if president obama had his increase in taxes on the wealthy, the so-caldwell thee, that would fund the government eight and a half days this year. >> by the time they finished increasing spending, we'll be down to seven. >seven. >> sean: coming up more with speaker of the house newt gingrich, plus we continue to monitor breaking news out of syria. fox news has confirmed the syria government has mixed sarin gas and is ready to use it against their own people. we'll talk with ann coulter as we track the fiscal cliff negotiations. does the average american know what exactly this is? we went to the streets of new york to find out. >> it was something i probably learned about in school, but i'm guessing it's like a cliff like a mountain avalanche type of cliff. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, withcause c-max alsoted beats prius v, with better mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c
obama. the different in dollars. the president wants $800 billion more in tax increases. the republicans want approximately more a trillion dollars more spending cuts. that's the difference between the two sides just in dollar terms. there is a difference between the two sides in terms of principle. the principle centers on higher tax rates, yes or no. speaker boehner many latest offer is raise $800 billion mostly from the wealthy by limiting deductions. the president says, no, don't want that. we want to tax the rich with higher tax rates on the rich. we have a dollar difference, a difference in principle. martha: we are hung up on ideology here. if you can get the money one way and it produces a long lasting change to the tax code which both sides say they want, what seems to be the problem? >> reporter: it's ideology. the president one the elect, he says he won it on taxing the rich. he want to win the debate. whether it's the best solutioner to the economy is an entirely different story. this is a political and ideological argument and we'll see who wins. martha: there is a couple wa
.o.p. lawmakers to accepting the tax hikes now. >> i miss visiting towns like this. >> president obama got his wish, rather than negotiating with republicans he was hamering them. back on the campaign trail in a factory that makes angry bird toys. >> it's not accept to believe me and i don't think it's acceptable for you for republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage because they don't want the tax rates on the upper income folks to go up. >> within minutes, john boehner fired back the talks are on life support. >> let's not kid ourselves. >> boehner ripped the president for sending treasury secretary ti tim geithner to capitol hill with a proposal that led mitch mcconnell literally burst out laughing. >> the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of proposal. and much to my disappointment, it wasn't a serious one. >> their beef is the president campaigned on $800 billion in tax increases by ending the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. but is now proposing double that. $1.6 trillion. by adding tax hikes on dividends and capital gains. plus, the white house wants
to break rank, saying he could support president obama's tax proposal. coburn joins a growing chorus of republicans from outside the house of representatives, urging house leadership to clear the way for a broad deal that would include tax increases on the wealthy. however, as we mentioned, according to "the new york times," speaker boehner is enjoying broad support from within his own caucus. and yesterday boehner stuck to his guns, favoring closing tax loopholes and capping deductions. to raising taxes. >> now, the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> so could we just agree right now, everybody around the table, that both sides are talking about tax increases for the rich? >> i think so. >> it's just a difference between do you get tax increases for the rich? do you get the revenue by raising the top rate or by closing loopholes? i mean, that is
evening, everyone. i'm larry kudlow. this is "the kudlow report." the talks are back on. team obama and team boehner are back at the negotiating table. but there is still substantial disagreement on tax rates, tax revenues, domestic spending and entitlement reform and the clock is ticking. speaking of tax hikes, europe's grand experiment with taxing the rich more is falling apart, especially in france and britain. and here at home, california and new york are passing through the 50% tax rate barrier. is anybody looking at how tax hikes fail the test of economic growth? >>> back here in the u.s., could it be michigan which used to call itself the worker's paradise union state is now moving towards new anti-union right-to-work legislation and it looks like it's going to pass? but first up, budget talks resume between speaker john boehner and president obama today. with just 25 days to go, let's keep tabs on where we stand. reports of a conservative backlash against speaker boehner simply not true. he has the solid support of his leadership and the rank and file. but there is concern a
on them or their friends. some how the g.o.p. has managed to do it president obama's proposed tax increase on the wealthiest 2% of americans would affect 4 million households. they're predominately in areas like south florida major cities like new york, francisco and los angeles, all traditionally democratic enclaves. those who are won't pay the taxes oppose them, and those who will support it. here with me, robert reich at u uc berkeley's goldman school of policies. is this politics that goes back to what is the matter with kansas book a few years back. they would really not be affected by the tax increase that they want us to go through. >> it is one of the great ironies. it has to do with the big lie. if you tell the big lie over and over again people start believing it. and one of the lies that republicans have been telling for year is the lie of trickle down economics. the wealthy are job creators. if you tax them you'll have fewer jobs, fewer--less income over all. it's obviously a lie. it has proven to be a lie. if you tell it again over and over again at least enough people begin
. in his weekly media address today, president obama again pushed his party's tax plan. of course, utah senator orrin hatch rejected in the republican response. >> both parties say we should keep middle class taxes low. the senate's already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress send it my way. >> what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people. a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on. billions of dollars in new stimulus spending, and an unlimited, unchecked authority tow borrow from the chinese. maybe i missed it, but i don't recall him scwg for any of that during the presidential campaign. >> jarvis: parents and school boards across the country are debating whether to offer bonuses to teachers whose student do well on standardized tests. sharyl attkisson check out how the bonus is working in the first city to try the idea >> reporter: tenth grader lennard l
it until after all the tax cuts expire. then obama, you know, is not necessarily bound by just that demand. he could come and ask to free up more revenue. as dan was saying, i think they hope that something in the market will make the democrats move quickly but if they don't that just suggests that they don't have it within themselves as a party to vote affirmatively do so something. >> eliot: there is one other component that could create fear and tank the market, and that's the debt ceiling. that's the place where john boehner is saying there is an extra price for that. i'm going to extort an extra piece of this if you want me to raise the debt ceiling and don't fall into that bear trap once against we hope. that's something that we'll talk about. we'll take a break and my guests will stay with me. we'll talk about the meet and potatoes of it and the debt sealing. we'll be right back. mints called mints? answer in a moment. fruit just got cooler. fruit on one side, cool on the other. ice breakers duo. a fruity, cool way to break the ice. brought to you by ice breakers mints. break the i
secretary tim geithner told cnbc that president obama is prepared to take a dive off the so-called fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to tax hikes on the richest americans. and so we welcome peter alexander, at the ranks of the white house correspondents, with a look at all of it. >> reporter: brian, good evening, on the north lawn, the phone call marks the first time speaker john boehner and the president spoke in a week, that is hardly something to celebrate, but they wouldn't characterize what they discussed in the phone call as the country barrels towards the fiscal cliff. with no talks and no progress to avert the looming fiscal cliff, you could say the house has left the building, streaming out of the capitol. tomorrow's session cancelled. with only three work days left this year, they are often criticized. just 16 votes. across the country, rising frustration, americans asking why the holdup. and what will their taxes look like in 2013. >> maybe instead of getting my sister two things, you give one thing, you have to give pause on what could happen next year. >> reporter: toda
of getting the fiscal cliff deal done before everyone's taxes go up. >> consolation lunch? president obama visits mitt romney to the white house today and everyone is buzzing about it. could obama offer him a job? >> congratulations to someone. you just won the gdp of a small nation. not just one but two winning tickets in last night's record powerball drawing. we'll tell you where. >> and if they will be my best friend soon. we have a packed show. john ba, rasso, adam shif, rick warren, tom cole, connie and mary bono mack and steven holcomb. >> we have so many people coming up. it is thursday, november 2. "starting point" begins right now. >>> good morning, everyone. our starting point this morning, developments happening now in cairo. the u.s. embassy there is closed. no one is being allowed in or out as we speak. >> embassy officials say protesters are blocking the entrance and clashes are happening near nearby. reza sayah is nearby for us. what's happening? >> reporter: there is no indication protesters are targeting the u.s. em wibassy b it was closed as a precaution. these are protes
is the president and ceo of kinex. >> good morning. >> president obama said a fam of four's taxes could go up. what impact does that have? >> it's fantastic to have the president our endorser in chief. when you remove that discretionary income and toys are a discretionary purchase as are other things. you are having some potential impact on the entire economy. obviously, toys and other things, as well. >> the president's plan calls for raising the tax rates on americans earning $250,000 or more. most republicans remain dead set against the president's plan. >> that's true. i think, though, we have to take a look at the larger context. the larger context is we have a math problem. we have $2.5 trillion that we're taking in every year on the federal government and $3.5 trillion that we're spending. so, we're going to need a balanced approach of both revenue and spending cuts to teat there. so, that's what the president has been talking about and certainly something i can support. >> "the wall street journal" today senior administration officials say the white house not making any new offers until rep
this warning to republicans. amid reports they may accept mr. obama's plan to extend tax cuts for most americans while allowing them to go up for the richest, and start the fight all over again during debt limit talks early next year. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it is a bad strategy for your businesses. and it is not a game that i will play. >> reporter: and brian, tonight, the white house is preparing in case the country does go over that fiscal cliff, budget officials have asked all federal agencies for information that they need in case of possible plans in case of those automatic spending cuts that could go in place in just 27 days. >> peter alexander at the white house for us tonight. thank you. >>> and up next, the loss today of a legend in american music. i put away money. i was 21, so i said, "hmm, i want to retire at 55." and before you know it, i'm 58 years old. time went by very fast. it goes by too, too fast. ♪ but i would do it again in a heartbeat. [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ i took my son fishing every year. we had a great spot, not easy to find, but worth it. but wi
that obama says he's adamant about, what he was elected on, as he says, which is this basic tax rate going up by say 3%? do you think they are going to end in the end have to acquiesce to that? >> i sort of do think they will because in certain ways from the republican perspective, you could argue that the smartest thing to do is to, you know, vote, vote to extend all the bush tax cuts, let president obama veto that extension, then vote a middle class tax cut and let the top bracket expire, and then republicans can say look, we didn't really break our pledge. taxes were going to go up across the board. we did what we could do and the president wouldn't let us do more. but i also think that president obama sees a real percentage for him in getting republicans to cross the line of agreeing to a rate increase. and that's why i think he's pushing so hard on this. i think most economists would agree that there is often more advantages in capping deductions than in just going for the rates, but i think there's a real political advantage for democrats looking ahead to battle after battle that we'll
president obama's attempt to try and do a fiscal cliff deal? >> with $1.6 trillion in new taxes, i think probably half a second. >> when you see the apparent attempt at a bipartisan lunch going on today between obama and romney, it was all very sweet and everything, the reality is the picture was about as uncomfortable as the relationship is between the two sides, and again, frank, how do we get to a better place in washington? how do we get these guys to realize, let me throw this at you. i interviewed mike tyson an hour ago. fantastic interview in many ways. what i found really fascinating and relevant to this, he talks about when he goes back to the streets he grew up in in new york, what real people care about. they care about their homes, he got quite passionate about it. i just don't get that these politicians squabbling in d.c. care about those things enough or they would stop this politicking over things like a fiscal cliff. what do you think, frank? >> they care in largest part about staying in office and one of the problems here is what each individual member of congress thinks
to this, these taxes you and i were just discussing. >> yeah. and that's a crucial point, because obama has repeatedly said he wants to go back to clinton era rates, but that ignores this new surtax at the beginning of the year. if they take the top rate from 35 to 39.6, it'll actually be 43.4 on investment income because we'll have that additional surtax on top of that. so dividends, for instance, which are 15 now could be going all the way to 43.4 which could have a very negative impact on the stock market. megyn: so right now if you make money off dividends, which a lot of folks do. you know, it's not just the super rich who get dividend income from their stock investments, right now you pay a 15% tax on that, and president obama wants to change that to you should get taxed on that income as though it's your actual, like, salary. and if that, if he gets his way on that, then that income goes up to whatever your salary tax rate is, plus if you're over 200 or 250, the 3.8%, plus the .9% as well? >> >> it would be just the 3.8. the% 9 is for wage income above that 200 or 250. but it wou
, this is a clear choice between romney and between obama, and it was very clear on obama wanted tax raise for the highest income americans. didn't the american people make that choice in voting for him, the electoral college and the popular vote? so isn't it incumbent on republicans to at least accept some upper income tax raise there? >> i think that the american public voted for the status quo. they voted for the gridlock that they had before the election. i think it's a little foolish of the american people to think they are going to get something different based on what they voted for. >> you think they want the status quo? >> -- largely for redistricting. well, they voted for it. whether they wanted it or not, to think these people are going to change long-held habits based on one election, i think is a little bit silly. we're going to have gridlock in washington and frankly, i think gridlock is a good thing, not a bad thing. it keeps congress from taking away more liberties. >> the other thing, anderson, is that when you look at the members of congress, overwhelmingly, they were re-
network cd obama's favorite issue which is raising taxes 17 times more than spending cuts, and all told, 10 minutes and 18 seconds were devoted to taxes. compared to a whopping 35 seconds of air time on house spending cuts might be a useful tool in actually tackling our debt. not surprisingly, that trend was-mile-an-hou mirrored all across the major networks. here with reaction to that report and obama's parent indifference to the approaching so-called fist colorad fist fisk stein. welcome to hannity. >> great to be with you, sir. >> i'm getting the feeling more and more every day. he wants to humiliate the republicans. >> i this is an opportunity to drive a stake through the republican party. i think his strategy all along, i said this in my book, so it's weird to see it coming true so literally is to establish 25% of gdp as the new baseline for federal spending. he needs everybody's taxes to go up, not just warren's buffett's. he can do that two ways. he can get john boehner to capitulate or he can say the hell with it, let's go off the fiscal cliff and blame the republicans. >> if he
of automatic spending cuts and tax increases could take effect january 1st. democrats moved by president obama and congressional republicans signaled they are willing to compromise on changing tax rates and spending reductions but the negotiations are moving very, very slowly. susan mcginnis is in washington with the latest. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. the president is sending his top two negotiators to talk with lawmakers today about possible spending cuts. he's also getting ready to take his fiscal cliff message on the road. he'll try to convince the american people the best way to avoid the fiscal cliff is to extend the bush era tax cuts for the middle class. >> it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> reporter: president obama is putting pressure on congressional republicans and he's enlisting middle class americans in getting the gop to take action on taxes. >> when the american people speak loudly enough, lo and behold congress listens. >> reporter: tomorrow he'll host a campaign style event where he calls on lawmakers to extend the tax rates on f
obama believes in the clinton tax cuts, let them go back into affect for the entire country and see if the country believes they are good for america. >> the president is campaign acting like he received a anytime percent man date when he only received half. what impact is this having on the psyche of the gop. >> it is affecting the psyche of the president. he's act being like he did win a huge victory . he did win a substitute victory and what happened to the republicans is, they are fearful of all of these taxes going up they are trying to a bargain in good faith to give away something and then say if you will give us something and make us look good. don't humiliate us. the democrats are humiliating the republican party in making that offer . i think their own dignity and principles and beliefs, what republicans ought to say is, we think that extending the tax cuts pay roll and bush tax cuts is good for economy and america and consistent with our principles and blives and you are not going to put a gun to our head and testimony us to give up all of these things and we'll vote thes
was only $9 trillion. nowadays we're looking at $16.3 trillion. thanks to the tax and spend agenda of president obama there's no end in sight. if he's serious about tackling the debt, he'd be talking about reining in spending, but he's hell-bent on one thing, raising your taxes. by the way, don't dare thing for one minute, or believe the hype, that this is only going to affect the so-called rich. this white house is willing to put any and all tax breaks on the table, including letting the payroll tax cut expire. that would move would affect all americans. watch this. >> there are many tax provisions that are expiring at the end of the year, and the president has said that the payroll tax cut, among others, should be on the table. you look at a permanent extension of the middle class tax cuts, the economic effects are different. >> sean: if the payroll tax cut is on the chopping block, nothing is safe. all americans, regardless of how much money you make, you'll be affected. joining us to give us the republicans' view on some of the things, somebody made headlines recently when he a
backwards not forward. if president obama is talking about taxing the wealthy. it doesn't get you there. the math doesn't add up. i doesn't get you out of the hole. but if they get that on december 22 and all he get he is has a seriouscliff on his hands. >> i want to play this. question to nancy pelosi. the minority leader in the house about spending cuts and what she is willing to do. >> the thing on the spending cuts -- the definite -- [ inaudible ] >> $1.5 trillion in cuts is a lot of money. we in washington, d.c. and we get used to big numbers but $1.5 trillion in cuts you go beyond that, you are talking hurting the growth of the infrastructure and education of our people and the pillar, the pillars of our economic strength. >> bret: that is a message, steve, we cut enough. yesterday, i should point out that senator reid meant to say $1 trillion. not one $1 billion on the sound bite we played to be fair to him. but nancy pelosi is clearly saying we're done. >> you see this in the comments that the democratic members of the house made to the public. big argue in politico, not refrenc
, they can't do something to bridge this in to a conversation next year. but when president obama says things through tim geithner that he said about raising tax rate and spend additional money, which is crazy, it makes people more concerned that a big overall grand bargain can't be reached next year. >> eric: martin, do you think a grand bargain won't be reached? >> i think it will. talk about what is going on now here first. you know, the president won the election. he campaigned on the basis of higher rates for the taxpayer income earners. no surprise. the republicans are asking shocked that the president is taking a tough line. i think they expect him to roll over and play dead. that is not the way things work in this town. he won the election. and he told the american people we were going to raise the rates on the top income earners. now that is what he is trying to do. i think there is some give here. i don't think it has to go up to 39.6. right now it's 35. maybe it goes up a point or two. listen, republicans need time to sort through all of this. there will be a short-term agreement.
today about taxes. he said the obama administration will refuse any deal that keeps tax cuts in place for wealthy americans. republicans are meeting that idea with stiff resistance. >> reporter: with the clock ticking and the fiscal cliff looping closure he says the white house will only agree to a plan that includes higher tax rates. >> if they are going to force higher rates on all americans because they are unwilling for 2% of the americans, that is a choice they have to make. >> reporter: calling for $1.6 trillion in tax revenue. he insists the tax cuts must expire for the wealthiest americans. >> what we did is put forward a very carefully designed mix of tax reforms to put us on a path to fixing the debt. >> reporter: republicans did not welcome the proposal. >> i was disappointed by the president's proposal. i think it is a rerun of his budget patrol. it is $1.6 trillion. >> reporter: and expressing frustration with the lack of progress. >> i would say we are nowhere. >> reporter: he disagrees, pointing out the administration offered $600 billion in cuts to healthcare and other
's taxes are scheduled to go up. and unless we fix that, paradoxically president obama becomes the defender of the bush tax cut for 98% of the people and he is he no such thing. >> bottom line is both sides are still laying out the same ideas they have been doing for weeks now. today irskin bowls one of the key budget experts says he believes there is a two thirds chance that he wool go off the fiscal cliff. that's not too optimistic tonight, shep. >> shepard: not at all. ed henry live on the north lawn. the president is sending one of his top negotiators to capitol hill tomorrow to meet with congressional leaders from both parties. mike emanuel is live for that part. is he live on the hill tonight. what's the latest on the talks. >> there is always hope for tomorrow that's when treasury secretary tim geithner come up here to capitol hill to have individual meetings with the top four lawmakers. one of them nancy pelosi, the house democratic leader who was asked earlier today about spending cuts. >> i think it's important to note that we have already agreed to over a trillion and a half doll
from president obama that includes $1.6 trillion in tax increase over ten years. more stimulus spending to boost the economy including home mortgage refinancing and the permanent end to congressional control over the debt ceiling. in return, president obama is offering republicans $400 billion in entitlement cuts over ten years. still to be negotiated. mr. obama also wants emergency unemployment benefits and a temporary payroll tax holiday extended along with the infrastructure spending and mortgage relief, the price tag for the president's stimulus bill could rise to $50 billion or more. after meeting with secretary geithner, speaker boehner said he didn't see any sign of compromise from the white house. >> first despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> eliot: no sooner had boehner finished then
be better because obama not only wants soak the rich tax increases that would automatically happen, he then wants additional taxes on top of that would be very bad for american competitiveness. we don't want to send jobs to china and india but almost as if obama wants to do that. at least if w went over the cliff, we would get the sequester, which is the budget wonk term for automatic reductions in the growth of spending. melissa: absolutely but i'm not sure republicans are giving in as much as you think. ifou drill down on the details, as soon as i saw 800 billion in new x revenue, my immediate question did they give on the point of marginal rat d from the language it doesn't look like. more a tax code basically closes loopholes. they employ all the euphemisms to say you will get rid of deductions. sounds like that is where the 800 billion in new revenue isoming from. they didn't give on marginal rates at all. >> that is good news but only good news in the nse we're not traveling as fast in the wrong direction. you're talking about giving more money to the least competent pele in amer
beyond the tax date or just with those under $250,000 that president obama and democrats want. what is the best way to compromise for americans across the board? >> first you have to understand, that is politics as usual. even if the republicans gave in on this, on this 2% of the population getting taxed at a higher rate that basically pays for the budget deficit for three days. we are living with a $16 trillion deficit. so the republicans are going to have to compromise. democrats, white house, they have to come to a mutual agreement where an increase in taxes, a decrease in the amount of benefits that people receive, we need a real major compromise. we hope to god they do that zbleeh. >> heather: will they do it or not do. >> heather: will they do it? >> they no compromise. 50% chance they come to compromise that kicks the football into next year where the new congress will run with it. and possibly, 20% chance that nothing at all happens. we do think they will come up with some kind of temporary solution getting us through december 31. >> heather: we'll see what happens. >> gregg
to be for the rising movie industry. cet will head out to washington as president obama is pushing forward his tax for the wealthy agenda. george osbourne is going to update today. the chancellor will have his work cut out to meet his target of eradicating the federal deficit by 2015 as well as securing a fall to gdp ratio. also expected further pressure with a cut to its growth forecast. steve is braving rather inclement british winter weather outside the houses of parliament. >> lovely. >> i know you like it. how much is it going to be raining on george osbourne's parade? >> it's going to rain on his parade. you just nailed it, ross. three things which are going to come up today, which he has very little control over. one is that obr reckoning on the uk economy. thought only back in march it was going to grow -- pain a negative growth for the year. next year they thought it was going to be 2% growth. it's probably only going to be 1%. in terms of those two targets you mentioned, eradicating the structural deficit in a five-year period, that's going to have another couple of years. >> right. now,
. >>> while the fiscal cliff is getting close, president obama is getting tough, digging in his heels. he says the wealthiest americans must way higher taxes. alison? >> reporter: that's. house democrats are echoing the president's demand in the past half-hour. nancy pelosi renewed her call for an immediate house vote on a bill that would extend current tax rates or the -- for the middle school and increase tax increases for the wealthiest, 2% of the americans. >> if the republicans agree to bringing up the middle income tax cut, which i hope they will, that will be a victory for the american people. that's why we're here. and the cliff, which is becoming more of a slope, if they do that. >> reporter: john boehner met with house republicans. he's about to hold a news conference. he will be speaking in a few minutes. he's facing a potential revolt within his party if he caves to the pressure from the president and lets the tax rates go up. president obama is meeting with business leaders about all of this right now and we expect to hear with him -- from him within the hour. alison burns, ktvu c
. lou: president obama is looking to hide even more taxes. to find more taxable victims beyond the so-called rich. but there are yet more conditions as white house press secretary jay carney today reminded us. the president demands any deal is dependent upon a hike in the nation's debt ceiling. carney says the debt ceiling is another issue the president simply cannot bring himself to negotiate with those lowly republicans on the hill. and today began a new campaign of blame for the national debt directed at, yes, congress. me. >> your not going to negotiate over what is a fundamental responsibility of congress, which is to pay the bills that congress incurred. it should be part of the deal. it should be done, and it should be done without trauma. lou: the president is not alone in demands for non negotiation of vast regions of the federal wasteland. some ongressional democrats are also very specific about what they refuse to negotiate as well. for example, the conggessional black caucus announced that it is strongly opposed to any cuts in medicare, medicaid, or social security saying
. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on the phone about the situation yesterday. among the major sticking points is republican support for continuing tax cuts for the wealthiest americans, something mr. obama disagrees with. >> we could probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. but we need that conceptual breakthrough that says we need a balanced plan. that's what's best for the economy. that's what the american people voted for. that's how we're going to get it done. >> mr. obama's treasury secretary, tim geithner, went a step further, saying that the president would allow the nation to go over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year, if republicans don't agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >>> and maybe abraham lincoln can help the fiscal cliff negotiations. harry reid believes so. the senate will get inspiration when reid hosts a clescreening the spielberg movie. >> whatever helps to get things moving, right? >>> hundreds of same-sex couples in washington state lined up overnight to get a marriage license now that they can legally wed. the county cle
.91 a barrel. we'll be right back tracy: so president obama continuing to push tax hikes on the rich as part of the big fiscal cliff deal but will raising taxes on the wealthy actually help the government in covering its debts? i'm thinking not. liz macdonald is here with her bottom line. >> take a wild guess. if you raise rate on two top brackets how much does it bring in? it brings in '82 billion. guess how much in terms of government spending in term of time frame it covers, a month, a year? ashley: five minutes? >> pretty close, ashley. look at this. ashley: what is it? >> covers 1 1/2 weeks of government spending at current rates. ashley: that's it. >> when we talk about the fair share, tracy and ashley, you never hear the president say this what the top 1% pay. in other words what their fair share. look at this, 37% of the top 1% is responsible for in terms of personal income tax revenue. they pay, they earn just one fifth, just one fifth of adjusted gross income. moving along top 5%, nearly 60% of the personal income tax revenue. ashley: comes from the top 5%. >> top five%. they earn
to give in to some type of tax increase but president obama will have to come up with more entitlement cuts. jon: jenna had a great segment earlier about milton friedman and what would he do in this situation. >> yes. jon: he said or he was of the opinion if you give the government more money in any form they will figure out a way to spend it. >> senator rubio put it best. he said to create a successful economy, to create successful america we needless government, limited government. instead of making richer people poorer, make poor people richer. instead of new taxes create new taxpayers. we give money to the american people. they know best how to spend their money than big brother government. jon: are you optimist or pessimist when it comes to the question of whether we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i think president obama loves this country and is a patriot and boehner is a patriot and i believe they will work out a deal. if they don't make a deal, 28 million americans will pay alternative minimum tax and families will have their taxes raised $2,000 more and give more in this bad eco
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